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    gravydb

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    flubby? farty? wooly? woofy?

    Post by gravydb on Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:28 am

    I occasionally see a review/complaint using those words about the GM (or TM), and I've never been able to figure out why. I know, "to each their own" etc, "one man's tone bliss is another man's hell" etc... but still, my experience with the TM/GM series of amps has been nowhere near flubby/farty... in fact I find the tone to be fairly tight. BUT.... I tried something different the other day and suddenly was met with flub! I normally keep the amp on the 1-5w mode at home (no stage use yet)... Out of curiosity I switched it to 36w and it was Flub City! My theory is that I didn't crank the amp up enough to fully make use of that full 36w power section, thus the flubby tone. I am confident that if I were onstage and pushed the amp a little harder in 36w mode, it would be fine. Does that seem correct? Anyone have a similar experience?

    I would like to add that I only have 1 item on my GM wishlist, and that is to have the ability to have the power-soak settings as a global control. I just don't envision myself using different power-soak settings on different presets. Instead, I would like to be able to switch the power-soak globally, so that I can simply put the whole amp into 1-5w at home, 18w at a small gig, 36w at a large gig, etc, without having to have various banks of presets for each power setting (that's a b!tch to manage, even with the app!).

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    Post by bish0p34 on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:05 am

    Funny enough, I was playing with mine yesterday at 18w at home, and had the same result. I usually run at 18w for gigs, and 1w around the house. I was redoing some midi-sync settings with my TC G Major thru a V30 loaded 1x12 and it was flubby,

    Gigs are master almost at noon with channel volumes about 8-9 o'clock on 18watts. It's never flubby then.
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    Post by gravydb on Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:58 pm

    I've been keeping my channel volumes around 12 o'clock, and then I use the master volume to taste, it ends up being around 8 o'clock for home practice @ 5w. Only because I read somewhere (in the manual perhaps, or on H&K's website?) they recommend noon as being a good starting point, and then use the Master to adjust your overall volume for a given situation.

    Would there be a tonal difference if I lowered the channel volumes and then of course increased the master volume?
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    Post by bish0p34 on Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:56 pm

    Turning the master up gives the power amp more oomph in your sound. I'm not sure what effect it has with the power soak on. At 18/36 watts it had a noticeable effect for me. I used to keep my master low and channels high. Since I've switched it around I'm happier with the beefier tones provided by a pushed power amp. I've also lowered the bass on a lot of my sounds, the power amp being driven makes it unnecessary. IMHO of course.
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    Post by mmiddei on Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:53 pm

    I've had my GM for 1 week now and have done quite a bit of testing at various wattage settings, the only flubby tone I've experience is on the crunch channel. The crunch channel is the only one to me that doesn't seem to belong in this amp, unless i back the resonance and bass dial way back it feels very mushy/flubby to me. Tested with 2004 50th anniversary Strat, Gibson SG, Jackson DK2S as well as with several speaker cabs with Celestion G12 90's and the other 1x12 has an Eminence 75 watt.

    I'm really struggling to get a good tone from the crunch channel, the other 3 channels sound better than just about any other amp I've owned bar none. I guess it's not a big deal since the lead and ultra channels sound incredible as crunch or lead channels...

    Anyone else feel this way?
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    Post by gravydb on Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:07 pm

    Hey Mike,
    Check my recent thread about the Ultra channel. I'm right there with ya! After owning the amp for several months I finally got around to checking out the Ultra channel last weekend. All along I had been using the Crunch channel for my regular rhythm distortion and the Lead channel for solos. I am pleasantly surprised by the Ultra channel, to the point that I'm now using it for my rhythm distortion (gain at about 8-9 o'clock) and solos (gain at about 10-11 o'clock).

    btw, I just noticed you're from Bethlehem? I'm in Allentown!
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    Post by namklak on Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:25 pm

    I do classic southern rock. JJ's throughout, into a 1x12 with an Eminence Tonkerlite. About 1/2 my time is spent in the Crunch channel - yummy. I've found I can get something musical out of every channel - but I had been modeling for years, so maybe I'm not quite hip on how good a tube amp can sound.

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