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    Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

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    Egnator2

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    Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by Egnator2 on Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:50 pm

    Sorry if this sounds like a silly question, but I could not work it out from the documentation.

    Am thinking of moving up to the GM 40 deluxe because of sound quality and also midi functionality - as I have a rack effects unit in addition to what the GM 40 provides. I notice that the default midi setup is 32 banks of 4 sounds. I already own BEHringer fcb1010 which operates in banks of 10 which I am quite used to for the way I work across multiple covers bands . Is the 32x4 setup fixed or can I still use banks of 10 from the FCB1010?


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    Hendock

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    Re: Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by Hendock on Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:04 am

    The 32/4 setup is only the default setup if you use the Hughes&Kettner FSM 432 MKIII as it has the up and down switch to change the bank and the A, B, C and D switch for the preset. Actually it sends program changes to the amp to change the presets. You just need to send the program change (0 ... 127) via MIDI to change the amp's preset.
    According to the manual the Behringer FCB1010 can do that.

    I recommend to prepare the presets with an USB MIDI interface and an app that provides you access to all parameters. There is a free windows app available under:

    http://ctrlr.org/hughes-kettner-grandmeister-36/

    You can edit the presets on you PC, store them in the amp and select them with you FCB1010.
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    Re: Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by Egnator2 on Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:35 pm

    Thank you for the very clear reply. I understand completely, and it greatly helps my decison to purchase.Does the app access some paramaters that are not available from the GM 40 front panel?

    "and an app that provides you access to all parameters"

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    Hendock

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    Re: Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by Hendock on Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:16 am

    Well, you have access to parameters like powersoak, global powersoak etc. which you don't have on the front panel. And you have DIRECT access to those parameters that you can only edit at the amp, if you press 'FX ACCESS'.

    And you don't have to read out the stored knob settings by turning the knob until the light flashes. You see them directly in the app including the values (0...100 % respectively 0...255 MIDI digits).

    And you can store literally an unlimited amount of presets on you computer to load them into the amp if you need them.

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    Re: Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by GuitargutsMD on Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:04 pm

    So you are saying here that if I download that HK software exe on my PC and hook the head up to the FCB1010 with a USB to Midi adapter I can program the head with the pedal board to do whatever I want it to do? Preset mode and stomp box modes via the banks I want to set up on the FCB? Because it's that is the case, that is a godsend!!

    I have the WM1 and the FSM but they are only useful to me for home really.
    I also need to add a TC Electronics G-Force into the loop for some other effects I need live that the amp can't give me.



    Hendock wrote:The 32/4 setup is only the default setup if you use the Hughes&Kettner FSM 432 MKIII as it has the up and down switch to change the bank and the A, B, C and D switch for the preset. Actually it sends program changes to the amp to change the presets. You just need to send the program change (0 ... 127) via MIDI to change the amp's preset.
    According to the manual the Behringer FCB1010 can do that.

    I recommend to prepare the presets with an USB MIDI interface and an app that provides you access to all parameters. There is a free windows app available under:

    http://ctrlr.org/hughes-kettner-grandmeister-36/

    You can edit the presets on you PC, store them in the amp and select them with you FCB1010.
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    Re: Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by Hendock on Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:15 am

    GuitargutsMD wrote:So you are saying here that if I download that HK software exe on my PC and hook the head up to the FCB1010 with a USB to Midi adapter I can program the head with the pedal board to do whatever I want it to do? Preset mode and stomp box modes via the banks I want to set up on the FCB? Because it's that is the case, that is a godsend!!

    I have the WM1 and the FSM but they are only useful to me for home really.
    I also need to add a TC Electronics G-Force into the loop for some other effects I need live that the amp can't give me.
    If you already use the WM1 along with an iPad you've got no extra benefit from using the software with an USB to Midi adapter. It's quite the same. And you can use EITHER preset mode OR stomp box mode, not both at once, I'm afraid.

    My recommendation to Egnator2 was to setup his presets at home via the software and to use the FCB1010 for additional effects AND to switch the presets.

    In your case I would use the FSM to switch the presets of the amp AND the presets of the G-Force (via Midi-Through).
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    Re: Behringer FCB 1010 and GM 40 Deluxe?

    Post by bish0p34 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:43 pm

    I use the Behringer FCB1010 with my Grandmeisters. Works fine, right out of the box. I sync it with a TC G Major, and have one button change everything for me. Very simple, easy to use setup indeed.

    I prefer it to the FSM switches, as I like to have 10 options in front of me instead of 4 without switching banks. I also use 40 presets a night, with varying levels of gain and fx for each channel. It takes me about 2-3 hours to dial in the sounds, and midi-mapping. Once it's done though, I rarely change anything again. So, one initial time investment for years of gigging.

    If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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