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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:55 pm

    fredo wrote:
    streuth wrote:Hi looks really good. I tried hooking up to GM but doesn't seem to be talking (on Mac). Ahh I needed to set the device from the Midi menu Smile Very cool!!!
    Oups maybe I should have mentioned that !
    Yes you need to go the MIDI menu to set Input / Device and Output / Device to match you USB cable or whatever MIDI interface you connected the GM36 to.
    Thx BTW !
    Let me know if you have any other trouble (did not test it on Mac yet).


    Should "Midi | Midi Thru | Input Device -> Output Device" be set?
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:59 pm

    Still no luck getting FSM to track changes. I did try switching the in and thru but then it completely stopped working.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:02 pm

    When I make changes on the gm36 should they be reflected immediately on the control panel? That doesn't work for my setup.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by fredo on Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:11 pm

    streuth wrote:When I make changes on the gm36 should they be reflected immediately on the control panel? That doesn't work for my setup.
    Yep, moving a knob on the GM36 should update the corresponding controller on the editor.
    If it's not the case, the Amp -> Editor MIDI connection is probably not setup properly.
    Maybe you have to check that MIDI / Input Device and MIDI / Output device are setup properly in Ctlr to match your USB interface.
    "Input Device -> Output Device" should NOT be set, otherwise you will get a complete loop and messages will circle through this loop infinitely.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:06 pm

    fredo wrote:
    Yep, moving a knob on the GM36 should update the corresponding controller on the editor.
    If it's not the case, the Amp -> Editor MIDI connection is probably not setup properly.
    Maybe you have to check that MIDI / Input Device and MIDI / Output device are setup properly in Ctlr to match your USB interface.
    "Input Device -> Output Device" should NOT be set, otherwise you will get a complete loop and messages will circle through this loop infinitely.
    Aha! When I set Midi In to Channel 2 it updates as the GM knobs are changed, plus it tracks the FSM footswitch, although the footswitch still doesn't track any changes in the control panel - could still be something in my midi setup, but that's not a problem.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:16 pm

    The IPad app shows the values of all the dials from 0 to 100 (http://hughes-and-kettner.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/GM_Presets.pdf), the control panel is showing them from 0 - 255, would be nice if that was translated to 0-100.
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    Post by fredo on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:42 pm

    streuth wrote:The IPad app shows the values of all the dials from 0 to 100 (http://hughes-and-kettner.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/GM_Presets.pdf), the control panel is showing them from 0 - 255, would be nice if that was translated to 0-100.
    Yeah... I hesitated when I coded that, but I really did not like the idea of losing that much accuracy.
    The values displayed on my editor reflect the actual values stored in the amp (ranging from 0 to 255).
    The iPad app has to compute the value it displays like that : <displayed value> = <actual value> * 100 / 255, which is quite inaccurate with the rounding...
    I'm not sure if the knobs in the iPad app react with 255 steps or only 100 ; but none of this two options are good (either you move have 2 or 3 knob steps before the displayed value changes, or knob steps don't reflect the amp knobs).
    I think I will stay with the 0-255 scale sorry ;-)
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:45 pm

    fredo wrote:
    streuth wrote:The IPad app shows the values of all the dials from 0 to 100 (http://hughes-and-kettner.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/GM_Presets.pdf), the control panel is showing them from 0 - 255, would be nice if that was translated to 0-100.
    Yeah... I hesitated when I coded that, but I really did not like the idea of losing that much accuracy.
    The values displayed on my editor reflect the actual values stored in the amp (ranging from 0 to 255).
    The iPad app has to compute the value it displays like that : <displayed value> = <actual value> * 100 / 255, which is quite inaccurate with the rounding...
    I'm not sure if the knobs in the iPad app react with 255 steps or only 100 ; but none of this two options are good (either you move have 2 or 3 knob steps before the displayed value changes, or knob steps don't reflect the amp knobs).
    I think I will stay with the 0-255 scale sorry ;-)
    How about both or a switch. It does lose accuracy but would be nice to enter values as seen on the IPad app (i.e. I was trying to reproduce a setting from the IPad presets because I accidentally changed one and I had to covert 2.55*the value they displayed). But not a big deal, I do like the accuracy of displaying the actual increments the knobs use.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by birkenhall on Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:25 pm

    I can't wait to get home and give this a try.
    Hoping it will work on the Windows Surface RT without a jailbreak but looking forward to trying it.
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    Post by birkenhall on Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:59 pm

    So far no joy with the Windows Surface RT. No fault of the programs though this is due to limitations on the Surface itself. Still trying to crack it but I believe that i will need to jailbreak the device in order to get it to work. I imagine Surface 1 Pro and up will not have this problem. If anyone is interested if i figure it out i will share the outcome on a new thread.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by fredo on Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:07 am

    Hi there !
    Just a word to tell you that I've just uploaded a new version of the editor here : http://ctrlr.org/hughes-kettner-grandmeister-36
    This version features preset backup/restore.
    I did not have enough time to fully test it, so please report any bug here !

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    Post by meph8 on Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:43 pm

    Hello

    Nice software. I am saving up for my GM36. :-)

    If I tick boost button the intesity knob is maxed. why?

    Maybe a bug?

    Cheers
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by fredo on Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:19 pm

    Oh yeah, that's a bug !...
    Sorry about that, I'll get it fixed for the next release.
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:50 pm

    On Mac I get a Callback error:initPanel

    At line[31]:[string "loadData"]

    Error message: [string "loadData"]:31 attempt to index local 'factoryResource' (a nil value)

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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by normula1 on Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:59 am

    Hi Fredo,
    works great for me with one small caveat that I'm beginning to think is a bug in the GM36 itself.
    The save (to amp) function only works if the GM36 is set to either MIDI channel 1 or has OMNI enabled. I've noticed a similar issue with the Android tablet editor as well.
    I guess it's not a limitation for most folks, but I wanted to avoid using channel 1 as I have another device that can only use channel 1.

    Kind regards,

    Jeff
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by fredo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:47 am

    Sorry for the late reply, I was out of Internet access for a few days.

    @streuth I know that error message, had it a few times while generating the standalone version of the editor... Can you try and download the editor again ? Hopefully the latest version will fix the problem.

    Anyone else can report the issue with the OSX version ?

    @normula1, is the issue with channel not set to 1 related to the "Store" and "Store as" buttons ? If so, it might be fixable.

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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by normula1 on Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:47 am

    Hi Fredo,

    yes it's just with the store / store as that I see the issue. Everything else works fine on any MIDI channel.

    Here's the midi monitor traffic storing patch 119 to location 128 when using channel 1:
    Input:
    [16:38:37:000690]: [System exclusive] Ch:[--] No:[----] RAW:[f0 00 20 44 00 10 00 05 00 04 50 00 7f 2a f7]
    [16:38:37:000691]: [Program change] Ch:[ 1] No:[ 127] RAW:[c0 7f]

    Output:
    [16:38:37:000706]: [Program change] Ch:[ 1] No:[ 127] RAW:[c0 7f]
    [16:38:38:000489]: [System exclusive] Ch:[--] No:[----] RAW:[f0 00 20 44 00 10 00 06 00 04 50 00 00 56 f7]
    [16:38:38:000553]: [System exclusive] Ch:[--] No:[----] RAW:[f0 00 20 44 00 10 00 06 00 40 00 00 7f 01 3c 00 4f 01 38 01 14 01 2b 01 35 01 2c 00 35 00 58 00 60 00 53 00 4d 00 0f 01 5a 00 00 01 33 25 f7]
    [16:38:38:000608]: [System exclusive] Ch:[--] No:[----] RAW:[f0 00 20 44 00 10 00 06 00 04 10 00 7f 69 f7]

    and here'e the midi monitor traffic storing patch 119 to location 128 when using channel 7:
    Input:
    [16:42:43:000200]: [System exclusive] Ch:[--] No:[----] Val:[----] RAW:[f0 00 20 44 00 10 00 05 00 04 50 00 7f 2a f7]
    [16:42:43:000200]: [Program change] Ch:[ 1] No:[ 127] Val:[----] RAW:[c0 7f]

    Output:
    [16:42:43:000210]: [Program change] Ch:[ 1] No:[ 127] Val:[----] RAW:[c0 7f]
    [16:42:43:000312]: [System exclusive] Ch:[--] No:[----] Val:[----] RAW:[f0 00 20 44 00 10 00 06 00 04 50 00 7f 29 f7]

    Unless I'm misreading it, when using channel 7 it seems the input / output are still using channel 1 and yes I did capture the correct data Smile

    Cheers,

    Jeff
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    Post by fredo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:26 pm

    Yes that's what I had in mind ;-)...
    I'll try and fix that in the next release.
    Thx for the detailed information !
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:40 pm

    fredo wrote:Sorry for the late reply, I was out of Internet access for a few days.

    @streuth I know that error message, had it a few times while generating the standalone version of the editor... Can  you try and download the editor again ? Hopefully the latest version will fix the problem.

    I downloaded again, same thing, don't think there is a new version of 2.0
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by fredo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:04 pm

    I uploaded a new version on the 25th I think, nothing changed after that.

    I think that something went wrong during the first install. Can you try and remove the following folder from you mac : "<your-user>/Library/Preferences/H&K-GrandMiester36" and start the application again ?
    (Note that Library folder his hidden in Finder by default, you need to activate it in the "Show View Options" menu).

    If it still doesn't work, can you launch the editor and activate the Panel Mode ("Panel" / "Panel Mode") then select the "Resources" tab on the upper left corner and tell me what resources are listed (there should be "blue-led", "factory", "gm", "green-led", "H-and-K" and "red-led") ?
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:17 pm

    Removing that folder fixes that problem
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    Post by fredo on Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:24 pm

    OK great !
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    Post by streuth on Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:39 pm

    I'm having an odd problem with the editor. I was playing around with saving/loading settings and then making some back files. At some point I messed up the settings on my amp, not sure what I did but they aren't what I had set up, but I had saved a couple of backups which has my 8 custom settings. The problem is I can't restore them. If I don't have the amp connected I go through my settings and they look like what I programmed. However once I hook the amp up I try to restore those settings (answer ok to the dialog) it doesn't restore to the settings that I have in the backup file and the settings as I scroll through don't look like my settings. Any suggestions, is there a sequence I have to follow?

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    Post by fredo on Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:50 am

    OK, that might very well be a bug ;-)...
    Maybe I need to clarify the way the editor works thought.
    Did you notice the "Library / Amp" Toggle at the bottom of the preset group ?
    This toggle switches from using the Library preset data to the Amp preset Data.
    When in Library mode (the default mode when the amp is not connected), browsing the presets will display the content of the currently loaded library file (factory presets or any file you have loaded with the "Load" button).
    When in Amp mode (which is automatically engaged when the amp is connected to the editor), browsing the presets will display the content of the amp memory.

    Can you elaborate on the way you used to try and restore you backuped presets ?
    Did you use the "Restore" button or did you load them in the Library ("Load" button) and the use the "Send to amp" button ?

    Anyway, if there actually is a bug (I will check that tonight), you still can use the "Store" button to restore each of your 8 presets one at a time (load your backup file in the Library with the "Load" button, make sure you are in library mode, select the preset to restore, and hit the "Store" button).
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    Re: PC and Mac editor available here !

    Post by streuth on Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:50 pm

    Try this and see if you get the same results. If I load a backup while I'm connected to my amp (and in Library mode), I do not get the presets from my backup. If I disconnect my amp (start the panel) and load my backups they show correctly. I can then connect my amp but can't switch to amp mode at that point.

    I have tried reloading my settings from the Library | Load | and then Send To Amp. I have also tried Map Restore. Neither is working for me. It would also be nice to be able to set a default library load (for getting names etc).


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