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    Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

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    terrencerox

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    Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

    Post by terrencerox on Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:03 pm

    I know if you push tubes, the bloom and the distortion is better, but is 18 watts loud enough without running it through a board or power amp?
    Do you notice tonal differences in the patches that are 18 and 36 watts?
    I am trying to get a better blooming resonant distortion say like the new Orange Rockerverb, which is the sound Marshall forgot!
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    streuth

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    Re: Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

    Post by streuth on Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:34 pm

    18 is loud, I have been gigging with all my crunch/leads set to 18 (one clean at 36 for headroom) and my master was between 6 and 7 (all small bars). I did several large venues with my tubemeister 18 (before I got the grandmeister) and used the redbox into the mains and that worked surprisingly well too. However I think I could do that with the GM without going through the PA.
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    gravydb

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    Re: Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

    Post by gravydb on Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:09 am

    I agree, I think a lot of folks under-estimate how loud 18 watts can be. I have a GM36 which I haven't gigged yet but my prior amp was a TM18 which I gigged extensively, in a wide variety of venues, and I never had the volume higher than about 10 o'clock. Hard to believe, I know. I make good use of the Red Box to send a signal to PA and monitors, therefore I have no need to crank the amp. I am big on stage-volume-control. My opinion is that if I have to turn my amp up any more than that, there is something else wrong with the scenario (IE something else is too loud, etc).
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    Kaipirinha

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    Re: Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

    Post by Kaipirinha on Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:52 pm

    Same here! I have a GM36 and my last open air gig was played at 18W with volume at 13 o clock.
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    Egads

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    Re: Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

    Post by Egads on Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:44 pm

    Yep, I'm the same. Even with a loud drummer, 18 watts is enough for small-medium bars/clubs. We had an outdoor gig this last summer and I set up 36 watt versions of all my presets. I didn't need them! I even have plenty of clean headroom at 18 watts. When we're playing a louder venue, I mic the cab or use the redbox.
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    Re: Is 18 Watts Loud enough to gig with Does it bloom better on distortion?

    Post by birkenhall on Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:33 pm

    I have found a slight difference in tone between 18 and 36. From my playing around I found 18w works best for my small local gigs (also with a loud drummer) still with head room.
    For the same gigs if I use 36 watts I can drive the valves as hard and feel that the tone is maybe not quite what I am looking for.
    I wish I could give a little more on the 36 watt but the only time i have taken it that loud was going through a foreign cab I haven't used before so tonallity was different anyway.
    When i play at 36 full blast I will update.

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